Rudy: GOP Becoming "Ideologically Narrower"

Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) said that the Republican Party is becoming ideologically and geographically narrower, and said that social issues have driven away many former GOP voters.
Giuliani said the Republicans must learn how to again become competitive in states like California, New York, and Illinois — particularly in those states' suburban communities — during an interview with the conservative website The New Majority.
"We have to deliberately have a policy of running candidates that can win in the New Yorks, the Californias, the Illinois, and in the satellite states," Giuliani said. "We have to be able to emphasize the issues that are of concern to the voters, and not alienate them on issues that just don't work in certain parts of the country."
Giuliani said that means running candidates who are more centrist on social issues like gay rights and abortion, while maintaining a stronger focus on fiscal, military, and foreign policy stances.
"Those are issues on which we can get a majority of the American people, if we don't drive them away with the social issues," the onetime Republican presidential nominee said. He added that electoral math does not support the idea that Republicans would have won the 2008 election had they been more conservative.
"Our base is our base, and is not getting bigger. If anything, it's getting smaller," Giuliani stated. "[Democrats] focused on their broadest organizing principles, and left room for disagreement, whereas we focused on our narrowest organizing principles and didn't leave room for disagreement."

I can't believe, after


I can't believe, after saying that the party is too ideologically narrow, that he'd turn around and try to prevent his gay friends from getting married. Meanwhile a large majority of New Yorkers favor lifting the prohibition on gay couples. (And Rudy's on how many wives now, three? Nice way to support the sanctity of marriage.)

If this is his idea of not alienating voters, he might want to go back to the drawing board.

Here's a simple question: In


Here's a simple question:
In his last election, what kind of majority did Rush Limbaugh win by? Was it a landslide, or was it a close election? Hm?

I've been a Republican for almost 29 years, and it's becoming more and more difficult to stay with the party. I've already stopped contributing to the RNC, but I still give to my state and local GOP parties. I feel totally disconnected from the national party. Or, should I say, I feel the national party is totally disconnected from me.

I'm tired of the RNC using the same handful of hot-topic issues in an attempt to fire up a certain constituency. During the last campaign, I received a call from the RNC, and the canvasser told me that we needed raise funds to stop the brainwashing of college students by the Liberals.

Brainwashing?

I asked if any of the money would also be used to stop the brainwashing of college students but the far-right fringe? I guess it wasn't what the caller was ready to answer, so he just plowed ahead with a litany of social ills that would befall this country if we elected Obama.

Uh, don't we still have a Congress to balance out any real harm a President could do? I mean, maybe I'm being naive, but I thought that this country wasn't run by one person.

A broader party would pull in the talents of many people, right, center-right, center, center-left, left, and yes, those pesky RINOs the RNC would have us believe are as real as unicorns. A too narrow base leaves alot of talent, wisdom and experience outside the process.

Those of us in the middle need to stop crying and whimpering over why the rest of the party won't let us in.
It's "our" party, not just "their" party.

I have been holding onto my


I have been holding onto my Republican affiliation by my fingernails for the past 15 or so years, since the Gingrich Republican Revolution brought the religious/social extreme Conservatives into real legislative power, followed by the eight disastrous years of the Bush administration.

Lately, the actions of Congressional Republicans in responding to the economic crisis just about pushed me over the edge...to the point that I started drafting an essay entitled 'Why I'm Leaving the Republican Party.' But I continue to hang onto a sliver of hope that the RLC might show some sign of pulling the Party back from the Limbaugh dictatorship of the lunatic minority.

A small but significant sign might be to remove the photos of Mr. Bush from the website masthead, which I was distressed to still see when I signed back in after an absence of a couple of months. Perhaps some photos of past Republican leaders who were more in tune with the goals of the RLC, such as Eisenhower, Rockefeller, and the last good Republican president we've had, Jerry Ford, would project a better visual of 'the mission.'

I've decided to hang on a bit longer, but our Party has made a true hash of things over the past eight years, and the ideologues now continue to keep digging rather than come up with constructive ideas to get out of the hole. The current leadership gave up any moral authority to claim a legacy of fiscal responsibility after signing Mr. Bush's blank checks for the past eight years. Trying now to vandalize the Obama administration's repair efforts in a frantic search for relevancy can only make matters worse.

The recent actions shown by a distressingly few moderate Republicans to partner with the Administration and have some creative input to the process illustrate the only rational approach to a long journey back.

'True' Republicans are going to have to begin more openly and aggressively repudiating the Limbaughs, Coulters, Hannitys, et al, as well as the Dobsons, Perkins's and their ilk. They're the ones who should go off and form their own party...not 'us.'

You can sign me:
The Cape Curmudgeon

Cape Please let go and leave


Cape
Please let go and leave the party you are not helping anyone. You obviously are speaking out both sides of your pie hole. You complain about the Bush spending. Which I do agree he was not phisacly responsible. As well as the rest of the centrist Repubs. But the party is in the process of cleansing itself of the wishy washy RHINO’S. And our 2 senators are among them. But then you say you wish for the party to stop debating Obama over his huge spending and socializing this country. In just 50 days Obama has spent 11 times more than Bush’s entire term including both wars. The moderates had there candidate in 08 in Mcainn and look where that has gotten you. Either become an independent or join the Socialist I mean the progressives. You obviously agree with there policies. I am front and center when it comes to the Republicans and the wasteful spending and was very unhappy with Tarp 1. And Bush’s backing and planning of it. And because of that Bush lost all my support. But I will continue to be grateful for a job well done protecting this country from any further attacks. And standing behind the troops and the war despite how politcly damaging it became. This comment you made is comical “The recent actions shown by a distressingly few moderate Republicans to partner with the Administration and have some creative input to the process illustrate the only rational approach to a long journey back.”
Please do you really think that they really had any input or were constructive? And even if they did it was not enough to validate this monstrosity. I have to believe you are no Republican. There seems to be this perception that republicans have to give up there principles in favor of bipartisanship. Well that has been what has been happening for the past 10 years or so and this is where the party has wound up. Because there was no clear difference between the two parties. Well that has to end no more kowtowing to the dems who incase you haven’t noticed are not bipartisan. So please let go we do not need more Rhino’s . One question are you a seminar blogger because you have hit on every talking point of the socialists agenda.

“In politics the middle way is none at all.”
John Adams

Lewsiton, you've tapped all


Lewsiton, you've tapped all the hotpoints, like:
1)"You obviously are speaking out both sides of your pie hole."
2)"phisacly responsible"
3)"I have to believe you are no Republican."
4)"So please let go we do not need more Rhino’s."
Why?
1)harsh and inciteful
2)care more about appearance than finances
3)judgemental
4)exclusive
You have perfectly captured the essence of why we are a party of declining membership.

This is just getting worse


This is just getting worse instead of better. Watching Rush Limbaugh not only crown himself the "spokesman" for the party but successfully cow the RNC chairman is sickening. The time is coming when we need a third party representing mainstream Republican values, not this....

The Limbaugh fight is good


The Limbaugh fight is good for our party. Everything is about name recognition. The more people hear Republican it draws attention to our party. It benefits every type of Republican. Michael Steele needed name recognition. He has certainly got that this week. Just like how Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins and Arlen Specter got name recognition for supporting the stimulus. The key is to keep dominating the news cycle with different Republicans. I urge everyone to stay in the Republican party because we have various ideas that work.

In light of the recent CPAC


In light of the recent CPAC - Limbaugh love in, Giuliani's words ring truer than before. The GOP, in it's current state is irrelevant nationally. As long as the religious right and the neo-cons hold sway the GOP will continue to shrink in appeal, leaving only the rabid base. Hopefully Limbaugh's speech was not the re-energizing of the conservatives and by extension the GOP but rather the last gasp of a perverted 'conservatism' and real conservatism will ultimately emerge. Until then, I can handle some time in the wilderness.

This strong emphasis on


This strong emphasis on re-energizing the "base" of the party is off-track. The problem is not a matter of firing up the base, the real problem lies in how they are defining the base. As long as they continue to align themselves with the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, the Republican brand will be attractive only to a narrow group of religious conservatives and extremist idealogues. It's all very disappointing when you think of what could be accomplished if the party leadership were to focus more on inclusion instead of exclusion.

I think Christie Whitman


I think Christie Whitman should run for President in 2012. She would be an amazing candidate. Maybe even the next Ronald Reagan. We need intelligence back in the Republican party and she will bring it.

For 8 years, my Republican


For 8 years, my Republican party drove this country far away from GOP values and left us stranded, way off the main road.

As a life long Republican, I voted the straight Democratic ticket as a way to stop my party from doing even further damage.

Look who's driving this bus now!

This may not be your favorite highway but there are always several roads that will get you to your final destination.

Obama is driving the bus now simply because his ideas are better than anything the GOP could come up with in the whole past decade.

It is now his responsibility to get us back on the road to progress and prosperity.

My suggestion to the GOP; stop criticizing the man that is trying to fix what you all screwed up.

If he is so wrong and so far off base; then stop your crying at the back of the bus, roll your sleeves up, work your way to the front of the bus, and show us some brilliant ideas that will make us want to put you back in the driver’s seat.

If you can't be the best bus driver, then please shut up and sit down; because no one likes a back seat driver.

I agree, except for a


I agree, except for a disaster called 9/11. This made Republicans react in ways never thought possible. Most of the spending was defense which many of us believe in anyway.

Sorry dude/dudette, Our


Sorry dude/dudette,

Our response to 9/11 was alot of things, VERY FEW of them good.
Whatever one thinks of the roots of the disaster, or the failings that allowed it to happen - what is much harder to debate is that our response and current situation (to this day) has been full of mis-steps - some bordering on high crimes.
Like so many bad things that happen to nations or population sub-groups; we must be intellignetly informed by history, but we should hesitate in allowing the past to define us.
The fact that we haven't been attacked since then is a FLAWED premise...Strategically and tactically we became a much harder target - the bad guys went to Spain, Britain, Bali, Phillipines etc. etc... While we mis-spent BILLIONS and tried to strangle the constituiton...
We have embarked on an UNSUSTAINABLE geo-political-military posture...unsustainable financially, legally, politically...you name it.
IF 2006, 2008 teaches the GOP a lesson, the losses were worth it...If not - I'm really glad we lost!

"[Democrats] focused on


"[Democrats] focused on their broadest organizing principles, and left room for disagreement, whereas we focused on our narrowest organizing principles and didn't leave room for disagreement."

boediger

Another organization of


Another organization of International Bankers. Don't you have enough already?

Republicans lost the election because you pissed away tens of millions of jobs so international bankers (and Chinese Communists) can make a few more dimes. When people lose good jobs and are thrown into poverty it tends to tick them off, you should take note.

When Governor Giuliani said


When Governor Giuliani said we have to run "candidates who are more centrist on social issues like gay rights and abortion, while maintaining a stronger focus on fiscal, military, and foreign policy stances" he was exactly correct. The Republican Party has to be fiscally conservative and socially inclusive. Unfortunately, it has moved so far to the right socially that moderate Republicans feel it is no longer their party. That's why groups like the Republican Leadership Council are so important. Without them fighting to regain some balance in the Republican Party, the RNC will remain lost and out of touch with the majority of Americans.

Absolutely; it is time for a


Absolutely; it is time for a GOP wilderness. We did 40 years before, perhaps that will have to happen again.

I agree, but it isn't just


I agree, but it isn't just that. Republicans lost the American people's trust. Too many people associated Republicans with corruption and incompetence from the Iraq war being mishandled to Hurricane Katrina. We need to let the Democrats make big mistakes, which they will, and then build on that. Until then unfortuntately we will have to quietly oppose them. It is pretty sad that Democrats are being portrayed as tax cutters because Republicans used to have that title of less government. Although I think Eric Cantor should be a rising star among the Republicans because he seems to have knowledge on this issue which many Republicans seem to have forgotten.

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